Associate & Certificate Degrees May Be Your Best Bet

Associate & Certificate Degrees May Be Your Best Bet


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EVERY STUDENT AND THEIR FAMILY IS LOOKING FOR THE ASSURANCE THAT A COLLEGE EXPERIENCE WILL PROVIDE A SOLID FOUNDATION FOR A FUTURE SUCCESSFUL LIFE IN BUSINESS HERE TO DISCUSS THE SMARTEST DECISION THAT YOU CAN MAKE FOR COLLEGE, WE HAVE IN THE STUDIO MICHAEL KLEIN CEO OF THE NEW JERSEY ASSOCIATION OF STATE COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES GRETCHEN ORSINI ASSOCIATE VICE PRESIDENT OF HIGH SCHOOL AND COMMUNITY OUTREACH AT BERKELEY COLLEGE MICHELE SIEKERKA PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE NEW JERSEY BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION, AND MARK LO BUE IS A FIRST SEM… IS IN HIS FIRST SEMESTER AT BERKELEY COLLEGE, I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR JOINING US YOU’LL SEE SEVERAL WEBSITES UP THROUGHOUT THIS PROGRAM THAT WILL BE PROVIDING VALUABLE INFORMATION ABOUT COLLEGE AND AFFORDABILITY AND ALSO THE BEST RETURN ON INVESTMENT. MICHELE, LET ME TURN TO YOU, YOU’VE BEEN WITH US MANY TIMES TALKING ABOUT BUSINESS ISSUES>>YES>>BUT THIS IS, IS IT A HIGHER ED ISSUE? IS IT AN ECONOMIC ISSUE? BUSINESS ISSUE? OR ALL OF THEM?>>OH IT’S A COMBINATION OF ALL OF THEM, STEVE. ABSOLUTELY THINK ABOUT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, AND THINK ABOUT WE STILL, TODAY, DO THINGS IN A VERY TRADITIONAL MANNER OF BEING A PARENT, WHAT DID I SAY TO MY KIDS ALL THEIR YOUNG YEARS, “YOU GOTTA GO TO COLLEGE, YOU GOTTA GO TO COLLEGE, YOU GOTTA GO TO COLLEGE” BEING WHERE I AM NOW AND SEEING ALL THE ARRAY OF OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE TO STUDENTS, NOT EVERYONE’S CUT OUT FOR THE FOUR YEAR EDUCATION YOU GOT TWO YEAR, YOU GOT CAREER PREPARATION, YOU’VE GOT CERTIFICATION PROGRAMS, YOU’V GOT TRADE…>>HMM>>SKILLED TRADE OPPORTUNITIES THERE’S A LOT OUT THERE AND FOLKS NEED TO REALLY STOP AND THINK ABOUT WHAT IS THE RIGHT THING FOR THEM>>YOU KNOW IT’S INTERESTING BY THE WAY, REAL QUICK WE DON’T PLUG A LOT HERE BUT THIS PUBLICATION, NEW JERSEY BUSINESS, YOUR PUBLICATION>>YES>>WHEN I WENT THROUGH IT RECENTLY, MANY OF THE ARTICLES ARE ABOUT HIGHER EDUCATION MANY OF THE ARTICLES ARE ABOUT HIGHER ED INSTITUTIONS AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO PARTNER WITH BUSINESS ORGANIZATIONS>>YES>>AND VICE VERSA>>YEAH LIKE WHEN…>>IS THAT A TREND THAT’S HAPPENING MORE AND MORE?>>IT IS, AND LET ME PUT SOME NUMBERS BEHIND WHAT MICHELE HAD TO SAY. THERE ARE 62 PERCENT OF OUR JOBS IN 2010 IN NEW JERSEY REQUIRED POST SECONDARY EDUCATION YOU CAN’T GET BY WITH JUST A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION COLLEGE MIGHT NOT BE FOR EVERYONE, BUT THIS IS A VALUABLE DISCUSSION BECAUSE STUDENTS AND PARENTS SHOULD THINK ABOUT WHAT TO DO AFTER HIGH SCHOOL, BECAUSE BY THE YEAR 2020, 68 PERCENT OF THE JOBS IN NEW JERSEY ARE GONNA REQUIRE SOME KIND OF POST SECONDARY TRAINING AND THAT’S REALLY IMPORTANT WE’RE AT 62, WE NEED TO GET TO 68>>SO LET’S TALK ABOUT THIS THE RIGHT FIT. HOW DO YOU HELP FAMILIES, STUDENTS BECAUSE WE’LL TALK ABOUT YOU IN A MINUTE, YOU DIDN’T FIND YOUR WAY TO BERKELEY THE FIRST SHOT AROUND, IT WAS THE SECOND TIME FOR YOU>>YES>>HOW DO YOU HELP FAMILIES STUDENTS, FIGURE OUT WHAT THE RIGHT FIT IS?>>I THINK THIS IS JUST ANOTHER STEP AND MOST FAMILIES IN THEIR PARENTING. IT’S KNOWING YOUR CHILD. WE’VE ALL SAID WE HAVE MULTIPLE CHILDREN EVERY CHILD IS DIFFERENT AND IT’S MORE ABOUT FINDING ABOUT WHAT THEY’RE PASSIONATE ABOUT. WHAT IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT THEY’RE REALLY TRULY INTERESTED IN. WHEN YOU TALK TO STUDENTS, MAYBE YOUR AVERAGE STUDENT IN HIGH SCHOOL WHERE THEIR GRADES DIP ON THEIR TRANSCRIPT, MAYBE THEY’RE CLASSES THAT THEY REALLY DIDN’T ENJOY. YOU FIND A KID THAT SAYS “I WAS GREAT IN MATH, BUT I HATED SCIENCE” WELL, NOW WE NEED TO LOOK INTO WHAT CAREERS CAN YOU DO, AND WHAT EDUCATION DO YOU NEED TO PARTICIPATE IN THOSE CAREERS THAT ARE GOING TO CONCENTRATE ON YOUR STRENGTH, AND ALLOW YOU TO GROW AS THAT PERSON. THAT’S WHY BERKELEY HAS A VERY STRONG COMMITMENT, WE HAVE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF EDUCATION. WE HAVE DIFFERENT ENTRANCE AND EXIT POINTS FOR STUDENTS. TO YOUR POINT BEFORE, WE HAVE CERTIFICATE PROGRAMS. WE…>>WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? A CERTIFICATE PROGRAM?>>CERTIFICATE PROGRAMS ARE TAUGHT AT A COLLEGE LEVEL. HOWEVER, THEY FEED THE NEED OF AN INDUSTRY>>FOR EXAMPLE?>>SUCH AS MEDICAL ASSISTING>>YEAH>>MEDICAL ASSISTANTS ARE VERY PROMINENT IN THE MEDICAL FIELD ARE AN INTRICATE PART OF>>YEAH>>THE MEDICAL COMMUNITY WHAT DO YOU NEED TO BECOME A MEDICAL ASSISTANT? WELL, WE MAKE SURE THAT OUR STUDENTS HAVE THE ABILITY BY BEING CAAHEP APPROVED>>WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?>>CAAHEP IS A PROGRAM, IT’S THE>>YOU NEED CERTAIN APPROVAL CLEARLY, TO ENTER THAT FIELD>>IT’S, YES>>HERE’S THE THING I, THE AREA THAT I WANT TO FOCUS ON EVERY STUDENT, OR EVERY YOUNG PERSON, HAS HIS OR HER PASSION, OR THEY HAVEN’T FIGURED OUT WHAT IT IS AND IT SEEMS TO ME THAT AND AGAIN, WE HAVE FOUR KIDS AGES, BELIEVE IT OR NOT 23 ALL THE WAY TO 5 AND THEY’RE SO DIFFERENT IN SO MANY WAYS, AND I WILL TELL YOU, WITH OUR SON STEPHEN FROM MY FIRST MARRIAGE, I HAD AN IDEA AS TO WHERE I WANTED HIM TO GO TO SCHOOL. AND IT WASN’T HIS IDEA AS TO WHERE DID HE WANTED TO GO TO SCHOOL AND LET’S JUST SAY WE HAD A SPIRITED DISCUSSION>>MM HMM>>[LAUGHTER]>>ABOUT WHERE HE WAS GONNA GO TO SCHOOL, AND HE WON OUT AND THE IRONY WAS THAT THE SCHOOL I WANTED HIM TO GO TO, HE WAS OFFERED A VERY SIGNIFICANT SCHOLARSHIP AND HE TURNED IT DOWN TO GO TO THE SCHOOL HE WANTED TO GO TO IT WOUND UP BEING THE BEST DECISION HE EVER COULD HAVE MADE FOR HIM. SOMEHOW, HE SENSED IT, AND I WASN’T LISTENING TO HIM. AND THAT’S A MISTAKE WE MAKE. NOW FOR YOU YOU DID WHAT AFTER HIGH SCHOOL? BECAUSE YOU WOUND UP TRANSFERRING AFTER THAT HOW DID YOU PREPARE TO MAKE A DECISION ABOUT HOW TO GO TO SCHOOL? NOT EVERYONE IS AS PREPARED AS EVERYONE ELSE>>WELL, I WAS SPEAKING A LOT WITH MY PARENTS ABOUT WHERE THEY THOUGHT I SHOULD GO>>WHERE THEY THOUGHT?>>YES. AND THEN, I STARTED THINKING ABOUT WHERE I WANTED TO GO. AND WHAT I WANTED TO STUDY. SO AT FIRST, I WANTED TO STUDY THE MARINE BIOLOGY PROGRAM. SO I WAS LOOKING TOWARDS FLORIDA, CALIFORNIA AND>>LET ME ASK YOU THIS DID FLORIDA OR CALIFORNIA HAVE ANY APPEAL TO YOU BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER?>>NOT REALLY>>OKAY>>I LIKE BEING IN THE COLD IN THE SPRING>>OKAY>>STUFF LIKE THAT. BUT YEAH I LOOKED TOWARDS FLORIDA AND CALIFORNIA AND I GOT ACCEPTED TO ONE SCHOOL IN FLORIDA SO THE SCHOOL I WENT DOWN I LOOKED AT IT, I LIKED IT BUT IT WAS SMALLER THAN MOST SCHOOLS BUT NOT THE SMALLEST SCHOOL I CAN BE IN AND I WENT THERE, I WAS LIKE “OKAY, I’M JUST GONNA GO HERE I’LL TRY AND GET THROUGH IT” BUT I DIDN’T REALLY THINK THAT I REALLY WANTED TO BE THERE SO WHEN I WENT THERE AND THEY TOLD ME THAT I DIDN’T MAKE IT INTO THE PROGRAM, THAT WAS KIND OF MY EXCUSE NOT TO GO DOWN, AND TO STAY HERE AND TRY AND FIGURE OUT WHAT I ACTUALLY WANTED TO DO SO I STARTED SPEAKING WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS>>HMM>>THAT ARE IN THE ACCOUNTING INDUSTRY, AND I REALLY HAD AN INTEREST FOR NUMBERS, SO I DECIDED TO LOOK INTO THAT>>AND SO YOU SWITCHED MAJORS?>>YES>>AND WAS IT FRIENDS? YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT FRIENDS?>>FAMILY AND FRIENDS>>FAMILY AND FRIENDS WHO GAVE YOU INFORMATION ABOUT BERKELEY AND THAT’S HOW YOU WIND UP?>>YES>>IT’S INTERESTING, MICHELE HOW DO YOU THINK MOST STUDENTS MAKE THE DECISION A, AND B, DO YOU THINK IT’S A STUDENT…? IN OUR CASE IT WAS OUR SON IT WASN’T, WE DIDN’T DO IT HE DID IT, DO YOU THINK THE PARENTS OR THE KID OR BOTH OR WHAT?>>WELL, I HAVE TO SAY, AND MAYBE THIS IS A GENERATIONAL ISSUE, BUT WE AS PARENTS TEND TO INFLUENCE OUR CHILDREN A LOT, OR DIRECT THEM PERHAPS I DON’T KNOW IF WE’RE GOOD AT INFLUENCING THEM, BUT WE DO DIRECT THEM, AND IT’S A VERY DIFFICULT THING. I THINK PARENTS TEND TO WANT TO LEAD THEIR CHILDREN ON THE PATH THAT IS A VERY GENERATIONAL ISSUE, BUT I’LL TELL YOU A VERY SIMILAR STORY, BECAUSE MY DAUGHTER CAME TO ME IN THE END, AND SHE WAS BETWEEN TWO COLLEGES, AND SHE SAID, “MOM WHICH ONE DO I GO TO?” AND I SAID, “ABSO…”>>SHE ASKED YOU DIRECTLY?>>SHE ASKED ME>>OH BOY>>AND I SAID, “ABSOLUTELY NOT I WILL NOT MAKE THAT DECISION FOR YOU. YOU’LL MAKE IT AND YOU WILL OWN IT. AND IF IT’S THE WRONG ONE, AFTER A YEAR YOU’LL DECIDE TO TRANSFER AND YOU DO WHATEVER YOU NEED TO DO” BUT I NEEDED HER TO OWN THAT DECISION>>WHY DID YOU DO THAT?>>BECAUSE I WANTED HER TO OWN THAT DECISION, BECAUSE IF THAT DIDN’T GO RIGHT, IF I SAID TO HER, “GO TO ‘B’ SCHOOL” AND SHE WENT TO “B” SCHOOL, AND “B” SCHOOL WASN’T WORKING OUT, SHE’D SAY, “WELL YOU TOLD ME TO GO THERE” SO I WANTED HER TO OWN IT IN THE END>>THAT’S INTERESTING>>A LOT OF>>PRETTY EVOLVED [LAUGHTER]>>MM HMM>>GO AHEAD>>I THINK A LOT OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH, AND IT’S GREAT THE WAY MICHELE HANDLED THAT WE WANT THE STUDENT AND THE PARENT TO HAVE THIS MOST THE BEST INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE. AND THAT’S SOMETHING WE NEED…>>WHERE ARE THEY GETTING IT?>>WELL THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT>>YES>>I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT AND SEE WHAT THE GROUP THOUGHT THE… WE, AS A GROUP OF INSTITUTIONS, THROUGH MY ASSOCIATION, TRY TO DO THIS…>>DESCRIBE WHO’S IN YOUR ASSOCIATION>>IT’S THE STATE COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES, SIX OF THEM ARE THE OLD STATE TEACHERS COLLEGES, AND THEN THE INSTITUTIONS CREATED IN THE LATE 60’S AND 70’S, IMAGINE A TIME WHEN NEW JERSEY COULD CREATE BRAND NEW INSTITUTIONS LIKE RAMAPO, STOCKTON, THOMAS EDISON, ALONG WITH MONTCLAIR STATE COLLEGE OF NEW JERSEY KEAN, NEW JERSEY CITY UNIVERSITY, WILLIAM PATERSON AND IF I FORGET ONE I’LL GET FIRED>>OKAY, BUT NOT…>>[LAUGHTER]>>THE BIG R…>>THE… YEAH, SO JUST THROUGH THROUGH A WEIRD, JUST HOW WE WERE CREATED, RUTGERS AND NEW JERSEY INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY>>GOT IT>>AND NOW ROWAN ARE NOT PART OF OUR ASSOCIATION, THEY’RE THE RESEARCH INSTITUTIONS>>GOT IT>>BUT WE WORK VERY COLLABORATIVELY TOGETHER AND WE ALL, THIS IDEA OF CONSUMER INFORMATION, GETTING>>YEAH WHERE DO YOU GET IT?>>OUR WEBSITE, THE INSTITUTION’S WEBSITES THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO PLAY A ROLE NOW. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY. THERE ARE THE SECRETARY OF HIGHER EDUCATION IN NEW JERSEY’S GOT A GOOD WEBSITE THAT HAS LINKS TO EVERYBODY, EACH OF THE INSTITUTIONS WEBSITES>>YEAH BUT HOLD ON, WHAT ABOUT THE FACT THAT THERE ARE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO ARE LOOKING AT LISTS?>>RIGHT>>THEY’RE LOOKING AT LISTS IS THIS INSTITUTION ON THE BEST BUSINESS SCHOOL LIST THE BEST THIS SCHOOL LIST IS… ARE THERE ANY NEW JERSEY SCHOOLS ON THE TOP ONE HUNDRED? THE TOP TWO HUNDRED? THE TOP FIVE HUNDRED? WHATEVER IT IS AND IT’S, I DON’T KNOW WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE MAKING THESE DECISIONS, I DON’T KNOW WHAT VALUE THERE IS, YOU KNOW TO THOSE LISTS, AND I DON’T KNOW HOW TO COMPARE THAT TO WHAT IS BEST FOR MY CHILD AND WHAT ABOUT THAT?>>THAT’S WHY I REALLY BELIEVE THAT IT’S VERY IMPORTANT FOR BOTH CHILDREN AND FAMILIES TO GO DOWN AND VISIT WHATEVER SCHOOL THEY’RE LOOKING INTO>>THAT’S RIGHT>>NOW WE’RE…>>AND WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING FOR WHEN THEY GET THERE? IS IT PHYSICALLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE?>>THEY’RE LOOKING AT THEMSELVES NO THEY’RE LOOKING AT THEMSELVES. THEY’LL GET A FEELING WHEN THEY GO TO A SCHOOL. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO ASSESS THE CLASSROOMS. CAN THEY VISUALIZE THEMSELVES SITTING IN THOSE CLASSROOMS?>>HMM>>DO THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE? DO THEY LIKE WHAT THEY SEE? DO THEY LIKE THE INTERACTION THAT THEY SEE BETWEEN THE STUDENTS AND THE PROFESSORS?>>ACTUALLY SIT IN THE CLASSROOM>>ASK QUESTIONS…>>AND WATCH… YOUR SAYING>>MM HMM>>DON’T JUST LOOK AT THE PHYSICAL CAMPUS>>NO>>GO INTO A CLASSROOM?>>MM HMM>>WHY?>>BECAUSE YOU NEED TO KNOW EVERYONE LEARNS IN A LEARNING ENVIRONMENT IN A DIFFERENT WAY I CAN BE PERFECTLY HAPPY SITTING IN… MYSELF, SITTING IN A CLASS. I HAVE TO HAVE MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED IMMEDIATELY I HAVE VERY LOW PATIENCE SO I NEED TO BE ABLE TO SAY “EXCUSE ME, OVER HERE, I’M NOT UNDERSTANDING”>>HOW ABOUT THERE’S 200 PERSON LECTURE HALL, YOU’RE NOT GETTING IT?>>I’M NOT GETTING THAT ATTENTION. NOW FOR SOME STUDENTS, THAT’S PERFECTLY FINE, AND THEY CAN FUNCTION THAT WAY. BUT FOR THE STUDENT WHO CAN’T, MY ANSWER IS DON’T PUT YOURSELF INTO THAT SITUATION. BECAUSE WHICHEVER CLASSROOM YOU’RE IN, WHETHER IT’S A LARGE CLASSROOM, OR SMALL CLASS, YOU NEED THAT INFORMATION TO GET THE SKILLSET THAT YOU’RE GONNA USE IN YOUR CAREER. SO, YOU NEED THAT INFORMATION. HOWEVER WAY YOU GET IT IS UP TO YOU>>AND YOU CAN’T GET IT ALL ONLINE, MICHELE?>>WELL THERE’S A LOT OF RESOURCES ONLINE, I MEAN THERE’S A LOT OF RESOURCES ONLINE. BUT THE WHOLE IDEA OF WORD OF MOUTH, YOU KNOW WHEN YOU’RE LOOKING AT SCHOOLS TALK TO PEOPLE WHO WENT THERE FIND OTHER STUDENTS, HAVE YOUR KID TALK TO OTHER KIDS WHO HAVE BEEN THERE>>THAT’S WHAT HAPPENED TO MINE>>ABSOLUTELY>>GO AHEAD>>BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY’LL SHARE THEIR PERSONAL EXPERIENCE>>THAT MATTERS?>>SURE>>LET’S TALK ABOUT MONEY THE ECONOMICS OF THIS CAUSE WE’RE TALKING ABOUT RETURN ON INVESTMENT AND YOU DEAL WITH RETURN ON INVESTMENT ALL THE TIME>>YES>>WITH THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE MEMBERS OF THE BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION. BUT MICHAEL, HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THAT QUESTION OF RETURN ON INVESTMENT? HOW WOULD YOU DEFINE A RETURN ON YOUR INVESTMENT OF THE TUITION THAT IT COSTS TO GO TO COLLEGE? HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THAT?>>WELL>>IS IT “DO I GET A JOB IN THIS MUCH TIME?” “HOW MUCH IS THE JOB PAYING ME?” I MEAN, HOW DO YOU MEASURE THAT?>>FOR ME, IT’S MORE OF GETTING A JOB RIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE, AND BERKELEY DOES HELP WITH THAT, BECAUSE THEY HELP PEOPLE>>HOLD ON MARK, BERKELEY HELPS WITH>>GETTING A JOB>>GETTING… LIKE PLACEMENT?>>WE HAVE A…>>YEAH>>WE HAVE A CAREER SERVICES DEPARTMENT THAT WORKS WITH OUR STUDENTS IN HELPING THEM PREPARE FOR INTERVIEWS, PREPARE THEIR RESUME, PUTTING TOGETHER HOW TO DO A JOB SEARCH>>SO MARK, HOW DID YOU RESPECTFULLY, HOW DID YOU EVEN KNOW, CAUSE SOMETIMES THERE ARE STUDENTS WHO DON’T EVEN KNOW THAT SERVICES EXIST HOW DID YOU EVEN KNOW THAT THAT EXISTED?>>WHEN I WENT ON MY FIRST TOUR FOR BERKELEY, I ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS WITH MY ADMISSIONS COUNSELLOR JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS FOR ME>>YOU DID THAT?>>YES>>AND NOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THERE ARE INTERNSHIPS ARE YOU OUT THERE IN ANY YET?>>NO>>CAUSE YOU’RE ONLY IN YOUR FIRST SEMESTER?>>YES>>YOUR GAME PLAN IS TO DO WHAT MOVING FORWARD IN TERMS OF INTERNSHIPS?>>FOR ME, I WANT TO TRY AND WORK IN A SMALLER BUSINESS JUST SO THAT I CAN GET USED TO THE INDUSTRY. AND THEN I’LL LOOK INTO BERKELEY AND SEEING IF I CAN GET INTO A BIGGER BUSINESS. SEEING LIKE FRIENDS IN ACCOUNTING TRYING TO SIT NEXT TO SOMEONE, WATCH WHAT THEY DO, AND JUST KINDA GET THE FEEL OF WHERE I WANT TO BE AFTER COLLEGE>>AND MARK, LET ME ASK YOU THIS THE FINANCING OF YOUR EDUCATION IS IT PLANNED OUT?>>YES. I’M PAYING FOR MY OWN COLLEGE. IT’S ALL COMING OUT OF LIKE, GRANTS AND LOANS. BUT MY MOM AND DAD AREN’T HELPING ME WITH PAYMENTS, I HAVE TO WORK. I WORK WITH MY DAD IN CONSTRUCTION TO PAY FOR MY OWN COLLEGE>>YOU’RE DOING THAT?>>YES>>I… JUST SO I CAN PUSH A LITTLE FURTHER, HOW MUCH MORE INVESTED ARE YOU IN YOUR COLLEGE EXPERIENCE, BECAUSE YOU ARE DOING THIS YOURSELF?>>BY DOING IT MYSELF, I KINDA FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE WITH THE TIME MANAGEMENT, IT’S HELPING ME A LOT, BECAUSE I GO FROM SCHOOL TO WORK TO SOCCER PRACTICE, AND THEN…>>YOU PLAY SOCCER AS WELL?>>YES. SO I DO THAT. AND THEN ON FRIDAYS I DON’T HAVE SCHOOL SO I GO TO WORK ALL DAY, THEN SOCCER PRACTICE. SATURDAYS I WORK, AND I’M JUST TRYING TO WORK AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE NOW THIS WAY I CAN SLOWLY PAY OFF MY LOANS>>YOU’RE ALL IN AREN’T YOU?>>YES>>MICHAEL, WHAT ARE YOU HEARING?>>IT’S… I ADMIRE WHAT HE’S DOING TREMENDOUSLY, AND IT SPEAKS EXACTLY TO WHAT WE’RE TRYING TO GET AT. THAT THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS NOT A DOLLAR SIGN AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT’S…>>WHAT DO YOU MEAN?>>I WANTED TO HEAR THAT THIS SCHOOL IS HELPING HIM GET HIS ASPIRATIONS AND REACH HIS GOALS. IT’S REALLY ALL ABOUT…>>WELL MARK IS DOING THE WORK>>HE’S DOING THE WORK, WHICH IS GREAT, HE’S GOT THE RESOURCES AND IT SOUNDS LIKE TERRIFIC COUNSELLORS, AND HIS OWN PERSONAL MOTIVATION, WHICH IS WHAT EVERYONE’S GOTTA BRING TO THE GAME. WHAT IS FRUSTRATING FOR ME, AND FOLKS IN OUR ASSOCIATION, IS SEEING LISTS LIKE WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE, WHERE RETURN ON INVESTMENT IS SIMPLY A DOLLAR SIGN, TEN YEARS OUT, WHAT A TYPICAL GRADUATE’S MAKING AND THAT’S, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE>>AND THAT’S THE CRITERIA THAT’S USED?>>YEAH WELL…>>WHAT’S THE PROBLEM WITH THAT?>>I DON’T THINK THAT MEASURES THE QUALITY OF THE EDUCATION THAT THEY GET. IF SOMEONE BRINGS THE PASSION OF WANTING TO WORK IN A PARTICULAR INDUSTRY, AND CAN GET THERE THROUGH THE SCHOOL THAT THEY PICK, THAT’S THE SIGN OF SUCCESS. IT’S, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE THE MOST MONEY, AND IT’S GOT MORE TO DO WITH WHAT YOU DO, YOU KNOW, THE MAJOR THAT YOU PICK, RATHER THAN THE SCHOOL WHERE YOU GO ALL THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT LISTS INVARIABLY IT’S ENGINEERS WHO MAKE THE MOST MONEY WELL THAT’S, WE KINDA KNOW THAT IF YOU WANT TO BE AN ENGINEER>>AND SO IF YOU’RE NOT IN THAT MAJOR>>THAT’S FANTASTIC>>SORRY FOR INTERRUPTING SO IF YOU’RE NOT IN THAT MAJOR YOU’VE DONE REALLY WELL, YOU EVEN FIND A GOOD JOB, YOU’RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH IN THIS TOUGH THESE TOUGH TIMES, TO FIND A GOOD JOB, BUT YOU’RE NOT EARNING AS MUCH AS AN ENGINEER THOSE LISTS MAY NOT SAY THAT THAT SCHOOL IS ONE OF THE BEST SCHOOLS BECAUSE YOU’RE NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT THE FACT IS, ENGINEERS ARE MAKING THE MOST. MICHELE, WHEN YOU HEARD MARK TALK ABOUT HOW HE, I WAS LOOKING AT YOU>>YEAH>>IS, THAT’S THE SPIRIT OF AN ENTREPRENEUR?>>ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY, I MEAN THAT’S WHAT WE SEE MORE AND MORE, AND EDUCATIONAL ENVIRONMENTS THAT CAN EMBRACE THAT AND CAN EMPOWER THAT IS HUGE. HUGE. I MEAN, THAT’S WHAT PEOPLE…>>THOSE ARE REAL SKILLS?>>ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY>>LIKE?>>WELL, AND SKILL AND LET’S TALK ABOUT SKILL STEVE>>SURE>>CAUSE THAT’S WHAT IT’S ALL ABOUT. YOU KNOW, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT IS ALL ABOUT SKILL, SO OUR COMPANIES, OUR BUSINESSES, OUR 20,000 BUSINESSES ACROSS THE STATE OF NEW JERSEY, YOU KNOW UNFORTUNATELY, THEY’RE TELLING US EVERY DAY THAT THEY’RE NOT FINDING THE MARKS IN THE WORLD UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE STUDENTS THAT ARE COMING OUT…>>YOU’RE MAKING HIM FEEL VERY GOOD RIGHT NOW, BUT GO AHEAD [LAUGHTER]>>[LAUGHTER]>>THAT’S GOOD, THAT’S GOOD WELL HE’S GOT A LOT TO BE PROUD OF>>THAT’S RIGHT>>BUT YOU KNOW, THEY’RE TELLING US THAT STUDENTS ARE COMING OUT WHETHER THE, YOU KNOW, TWO YEAR FOUR YEAR, WITHOUT THE COMMUNICATION SKILLS, AND THE HANDS ON EXPERIENCE THAT THEY NEED. YOU KNOW, THE TECHNICAL SKILLS YOU LEARN BY BEING IN THE TRADE>>SURE>>BUT THOSE EMPLOYABILITY SKILLS, THE ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE, TO WRITE, TO COMPREHEND CRITICAL THINKING TO WORK IN A TEAM ENVIRONMENT>>HOW ABOUT TIME MANAGEMENT?>>TIME MANAGEMENT>>AND FINISHING A JOB?>>ABSOLUTELY. AND WHEN HE SAID WHEN HE, MARK, I MEAN YOU USED THE TERM “TIME MANAGEMENT” RIGHT NOW, OKAY, THAT IS HUGE CAUSE WE HEAR THAT ALL THE TIME SHOWING UP TO WORK ON TIME YOU THINK THAT’S A GIVEN NO. IT’S A CRITICALITY RIGHT NOW IN WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT THAT EMPLOYABILITY SKILLS ARE LACKING. SO WHAT WE’RE DOING ON THAT, IS WE’RE TRYING TO PLAY A ROLE OF FACILITATOR AND COORDINATOR. WE’RE TRYING TO SAY TO OUR BUSINESSES “WHAT ARE THE SKILLS THAT ARE LACKING?” EMPLOYABILITY AND TECHNICAL. WE’RE TRYING THEN TO GO BACK, BRING PRIVATE SECTOR INTO THE GAME, GO TO OUR TWO AND FOUR YEAR COLLEGES, AND SAY “HERE’S WHAT THE BUSINESSES ARE TELLING US IS MISSING RIGHT NOW” THEY’LL EVEN HELP YOU COME AND WRITE THE CURRICULUM OKAY. SO THAT YOU CAN DELIVER>>HMM>>THE STUDENTS AND THE PRODUCT THAT CAN WALK RIGHT OUT AND WALK INTO A JOB>>HOW RECEPTIVE ARE YOU FINDING THIS IS INTERESTING>>YEAH>>ONLY BECAUSE I’VE TAUGHT AT A FEW OF THE INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER LEARNING, IN THE AREA OF BUSINESS, AND I KNOW THAT GETTING A COURSE APPROVED IS NOT EASY>>MM HMM>>AND LET’S JUST SAY THERE’S A LITTLE BIT OF BUREAUCRACY FAIR?>>A LITTLE BIT>>FAIR?>>MM HMM>>HOW RECEPTIVE HAVE YOU FOUND MOST INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER LEARNING TO THE BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION COMING IN SAYING, “LISTEN, WE HAVE SOME IDEAS”?>>THEY’RE COMING ALONG SO I WILL SAY MORESO EVERYTHING IS EVOLUTIONARY YOU GOTTA START SOMEWHERE AND THEN YOU GOTTA KEEP BRINGING, YOU KNOW, WHAT’S THE VALUE TO YOU ON THIS?>>SURE>>AND I THINK THE REASON WHY THEY’RE COMING ALONG IS BECAUSE THEY’RE SCRATCHING THEIR OWN HEADS. WHEN YOU HAVE A COLLEGE PRESIDENT YOU KNOW, SITTING THERE SAYING “WELL WHAT DO YOU MEAN THAT MY PRODUCT, MY STUDENT, ISN’T WHAT YOU WANT OR NEED?” IT’S A SENSE OF PRIDE AS WELL. THEY ARE COMING ALONG, AND IT’S WONDERFUL>>CAUSE THERE’S A NEED?>>THERE’S A NEED>>WHAT ARE YOU HEARING?>>WELL, BERKELEY HAS ALWAYS HAD A VERY UNIQUE APPROACH TO OUR ACADEMIC, JOINING ACADEMICS AND MAKING OUR STUDENTS VERY CAREER FOCUSED FROM THE ONSET. I THINK IT STARTS FROM DAY ONE, BECAUSE ALL OF OUR PROFESSORS NOT ONLY HAVE THEIR ACADEMIC CREDENTIALS TO TEACH, BUT ALSO HAVE PRACTICAL WORK EXPERIENCE IN THE FIELD IN WHICH THEY’RE EDUCATING OUR STUDENTS ON SO THEY’RE NOT GIVING THEM A STRICT BOOK EDUCATION THEY’RE ALSO INTERJECTING IN WITH THEM WHAT THEIR PERSONAL EXPERIENCES HAVE BEEN FROM INDUSTRY AND WHAT INDUSTRY IS LOOKING FOR AND INDUSTRY NEEDS. SO IT BECOMES A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE WHERE IT IS A PROFESSOR BUT IT IS ALSO A MENTOR AND I BELIEVE…>>SOMEONE WHO’S ACTUALLY BEEN IN IT?>>YES>>THAT MATTERS?>>BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT YOU’RE TEACHING YOUR PASSION SO THAT MAKES IT A DIFFERENT CLASSROOM ENVIRONMENT. AND I THINK YOU WOULD AGREE?>>YES>>AND THAT’S IN THE ACCOUNTING FIELD? ARE YOU, HAVE YOU DEALT WITH PROFESSORS WHO ACTUALLY ARE IN THE FIELD AS WELL?>>I HAVEN’T STARTED MY ACCOUNTING CLASSES YET BECAUSE>>OH YOU’RE DOING THE GENERAL?>>YEAH, RIGHT NOW I’M IN MY GENERAL CLASSES. I STARTED LATE, SO I DIDN’T REALLY GET TO CHOOSE MY ACCOUNTING CLASS. BUT I FEEL LIKE THEY HELP YOU A LOT, AND THEY KINDA GUIDE YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT IF YOU DON’T DO THE WORK YOURSELF, YOU’RE NOT GONNA SUCCEED WHAT THEY’RE TRYING TO GET YOU TO DO>>STAY ON WHAT MARK JUST SAID BECAUSE, BY THE WAY, YOU’VE BEEN LOOKING AT WEBSITES THROUGHOUT THIS PROGRAM ABOUT HOW YOU CAN GET MORE INFORMATION, BUT ULTIMATELY ULTIMATELY, IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT EVEN THOUGH AN INSTITUTION OF HIGHER LEARNING CAN PROVIDE LOTS OF RESOURCES, LOTS OF INFORMATION, LOTS OF HELP SOME FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE WHERE THAT IS APPROPRIATE ULTIMATELY, I OFTEN SAY THIS I DO A LOT OF EXECUTIVE COACHING AND LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT, AND I OFTEN SAY TO MY CLIENTS, “YOU ARE THE QUARTERBACK OF YOUR OWN CAREER” AND SOME WILL SAY “I DIDN’T GET THIS PARTNERSHIP BECAUSE SO AND SO DIDN’T HELP ME! I DIDN’T THIS PROMOTION!” YOU’RE SHAKING YOUR HEAD RIGHT?>>MM HMM>>MM HMM>>AND I’LL SAY, “YOU ARE THE QUARTERBACK OF YOUR OWN CAREER” I’M NOT SAYING YOU CONTROL EVERYTHING, BUT IT’S… YOU’RE THE QUARTERBACK OF YOUR ACADEMIC EXPERIENCE. IS THAT>>MM HMM>>TOO SIMPLISTIC? DOES THAT JUST BELONG ON A BUMPER STICKER? AND IT’S NOT REALLY TRUE? I REALLY BELIEVE IT BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, DO YOU BELIEVE IT?>>I DO. AND THE STUDENTS AND PARENTS CAN BE OVERWHELMED WITH CHOICES. AND MY LITTLE BROTHER USED TO SAY THAT “YOU CAN’T TRUST AN 18 YEAR OLD…”>>IS MARK THE QUARTERBACK OF HIS ACADEMIC CAREER?>>I THINK SO. HE’S PROVEN IT YEAH>>NO, IS EVERY STUDENT>>I WAS…>>ULTIMATELY THE PERSON WHO HAS THE GREATEST INFLUENCE OVER HIS OR HER ACADEMIC CAREER?>>THERE’S AN INTERESTING POLL THAT GALLUP DID WITH PURDUE UNIVERSITY THAT SHOWS THAT COMING OUT OF COLLEGE, LOOKING BACK ON IT, GRADUATES SAY THAT THEY HAD THEIR… THE ONES THAT HAD THE MOST SATISFACTION THOUGHT THEY GOT THE MOST OUT OF IT, DIDN’T DO IT ALONE THEY FELT LIKE THEY HAD TO HAVE WORKPLACE EXPERIENCE, WHICH IS WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT>>SURE>>AND CAN LOOK BACK AND HAD A MENTOR. AND THOSE TWO THINGS MADE THEM MUCH MORE SATISFIED WITH THEIR COLLEGE EXPERIENCE NOT WHAT THEIR GRADES WERE NOT WHAT THEIR JOB WAS SO THOSE ARE REALLY KEY FACTORS>>BUT ISN’T IT THE JOB OF THE STUDENT, RESPECTFULLY, TO FIND THAT MENTOR?>>TO FIND A, YEAH>>LISTEN, IF SOMEONE REACHES>>YES>>OUT FOR YOU AND SAYS, “I WANT TO BE YOUR MENTOR” THAT’S GREAT. BUT IF YOU DON’T HAVE ONE, DON’T YOU HAVE TO GO FIND ONE?>>I THINK IT DEPENDS ON I AGREE WITH YOU, THE STUDENT IS DEFINITELY THE QUARTERBACK AND THEY, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE ASSERTIVENESS AND THE COMFORT LEVEL TO GO OUT THERE AND PICK WHO THEY WANT ON THEIR TEAMS. YOU CAN BE A GREAT QUARTERBACK, BUT IF YOU DON’T HAVE SOMEBODY TO THROW THE BALL TO, YOU’RE NOT GONNA SCORE>>THAT’S INTERESTING. MICHELE FINAL THOUGHTS HERE, ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF MAKING THE BEST NOT THE RIGHT CHOICES, CAUSE THERE’S NOT ANY ONE CHOICE THE BEST POSSIBLE CHOICE ABOUT HIGHER ED?>>MM HMM. WELL, A FEW THINGS…>>AND IMPACT ON YOUR FUTURE?>>ABSOLUTELY. I MEAN I THINK YOU HAVE TO, YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO STEP BACK AND SO IT’S ONE THING TO BE PASSIONATE, I MEAN PASSION DRIVES EVERYTHING BUT PASSION ALSO IS JUST BEING A SELF DIRECTED PERSON BE HONEST ABOUT YOUR SKILLS AND YOUR ABILITIES. I TRULY BELIEVE, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS EARLIER, I TRULY BELIEVE TECHNICAL SKILLS YOU CAN PICK UP ALONG THE WAY, WHEN YOU’RE IN THE RIGHT ENVIRONMENT BUT BEING SELF DRIVEN MOTIVATED, AND STAYING FOCUSED AND SHARP, I THINK THAT’S SIGNIFICANTLY IMPORTANT. IF YOU BRING PASSION TO THE GAME AND IF YOU BRING MOTIVATION AND YOU’RE SELF DRIVEN>>YEAH>>YOU’RE GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL THE SKILLS ARE GONNA COME ALONG>>SOMEONE CAN’T TEACH YOU THAT LISTEN, I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU FOR JOINING US AND TALKING ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE, NOT JUST OF HIGHER EDUCATION, BUT MAKING THE RIGHT CHOICES. AND YOU I KNOW YOU WE’RE NERVOUS BEFORE YOU CAME ON THE PROGRAM>>[LAUGHTER]>>YOU ARE A GREAT ROLE MODEL WHO MOTIVATED A LOT OF PEOPLE YOU SHOULD BE PROUD OF YOURSELF WE ARE>>THANK YOU>>THE PRECEDING PROGRAM HAS BEEN A PRODUCTION OF THE CAUCUS EDUCATIONAL CORPORATION CELEBRATING OVER 25 YEARS OF BROADCAST EXCELLENCE AND THIRTEEN FOR WNET NJTV AND WHYY FUNDING FOR THIS EDITION OF CAUCUS NEW JERSEY HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY BARNABAS HEALTH NEW JERSEY RESOURCES MD ADVANTAGE INSURANCE COMPANY OF NEW JERSEY THE MENTAL HEALTH ASSOCIATION IN NEW JERSEY THE RUSSELL BERRIE FOUNDATION NJM AND BY ADLER APHASIA CENTER TRANSPORTATION PROVIDED BY AIR BROOK LIMOUSINE SERVING THE METROPOLITAN NEW YORK NEW JERSEY AREA CAUCUS NEW JERSEY HAS BEEN PRODUCED IN PARTNERSHIP WITH TRISTAR STUDIOS [MUSIC PLAYING] [MUSIC PLAYING]>>YOUR HEALTH IS A PRECIOUS RESOURCE. 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